I know we aren't finished yet, but I wanted to let you know that I've included Dr. Letourneau onto our wiki. I've also done my best to upload all of our emails onto a separate page in the wiki so that we can view our correspondence in one place. That was a great idea, Daniel. I know that the final product needs to be uploaded to blackboard by Saturday, I was wondering if anyone is working on tweaking it toward elementary/and or making it into some other form for presentation.Thanks!Shanda
I'll have another look at it with fresh eyes in the morning.
Looks great so far.Allison
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
I've changed the sentence to read : Breaking netiquette rules can lead to hurt feelings. Hopefully that's more in line with your thinking, Daniel. I agree with your point. It was a bit harsh or an online learning commuity.If anyone wants to tweak the wording so that it is suited more toward elementary ed, please have a go.:) Shanda
----- Original Message ----- To:Allison YagerCc:Shanda's Computer ; Agnes WaltersSent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:11 PMSubject: Re: This Week's Group Assignment
Sounds like it is elementary. I personally think the draft is really good. The repetition does not pose as an issue for me. Like one reading from week one pointed out, repeat yourself. Students sometimes miss things on the first go, so a second go is good. I would suggest rewording the sentence in the first paragraph that says improper netiquette will leave students vulnerable and unwelcome. Since we are talking about netiquette within the school system, saying they will be unwelcome if they do not always have proper online skills might not convey the idea we want to. Overall though, I think this was great. I think you did a fantastic job of giving the main points in a very succinct manner. Thanks.
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
Ha! Well we have one vote for HS and one for elementary. Allison? Tiebreaker?I've just uploaded a draft onto the wiki called Netiquette Draft 1. It is by no means a final draft. I really was hoping to throw down a template that you guys could adapt, change, fix. Understanding the discussion questions that our instructor gave us as playing a role in this project, I tried to distill our discussions down to a few short points. Please make any changes that you think I omitted or overstated. I started to feel I was being redundant toward the bottom of the page. Any way, I think we're off to a great start! I tried to make the language MS appropriate... but we can change everything to suit the learner group we end up targeting.Here's a link:https://veatchtech.wikispaces.com/Netiquette+draft+1I'm ok with whatever everyone wants to do.
thanks
Allison
Aggie and Shanda, that sounds like a wonderful plan. My vote would be that we make this document aimed toward high school students. I am a bit biased because that is what I teach, but I also think a lot of the conversation thus far addressed the fact that higher levels are held to higher standards when it comes to netiquette in the online environment. I did have one other thought to add though. What if on the discussion boards here we copied the entire conversation we posted on Shanda's wiki, and then attached the final document to that as a way of showing the process this conversation went through? Let me know your thoughts on that.
Daniel
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
Hey folks! What age level should we be making this for? Elementary, middle or high school?Shanda
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
Hey folks! What age level should we be making this for? Elementary, middle or high school?
Shanda
I think we are on the right track. Next I think we need to design a presentation. I think it best if our presentation reaches both the auditory and visual learners. We can present a short slide show and then design a flyer that can be sent out to students so they can see the netiquette rules we want to enforce. Google Docs has a slide show application that allows us to collaborate on and upload to the teacher.
What do you think? I ca design the format for the slide show if that is the approach we wat to take.
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
My understanding of the assignment is that we need to take this discussion and fold it into a viable document on Netiquette for our classrooms. "Your final document should set a clear message for students about what Netiquette is and what is allowed or not allowed when communicating with you and with fellow students via chat or instant messaging, discussion boards, and email. ...the goal of this assignment is to show how you would set standards and guidelines for your online students." I'm emailing a link to the netiquette page I created for a previous class. Although it doesn't include all the elements our instructor raised in our discussion, it might help us with organizing our thoughts around an approach to this assignment.http://edtech2.boisestate.edu/veatchs/502/netiquette.htmland here's a pretty thorough netiquette page I found on edutopiahttp://www.edutopia.org/netiquette-guidelines. Shanda
----- Original Message ----- From:Agnes WaltersTo:Daniel WestCc:Shanda Veatch ; AllisonYager@u.boisestate.eduSent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:53 PMSubject: Re: This Week's Group Assignment
Hi
First of all Thank You to Daniel and Shanda for setting this up. I answered the three questions in the Wiki. If I understand the directions we now take our group discussion and put them together to make one discussion from all four of us. Is that correct? I can help in any way, just let me know how. Can we upload the wiki to google docs to submit or does it need to be rewritten?
~Aggie
I just uploaded these questions to a page on my wiki. If you don't link directly to the page, go to the Amethyst page. We can put our answers into that wiki and then upload our final responses to the discussion board. Does that work for everyone?Let me know if it works ok for you.Thanks for getting the ball rolling Daniel.Shanda
I saw that this week, the four of us have been grouped for the discussion board assignment. Below are the three main questions we were asked to answer. Before I started throwing around answers, I thought I would check in and see how everyone in the group prefers to collaborate. If anyone has any suggestions for how we go about answering these questions and then posting on the message boards, I am all ears. With that said, here are the questions:
Are emoticons and acronyms appropriate for students to use with their teacher in an academic setting?
Will you allow invented spellings, or will you expect students to always use correct grammar and punctuation whenever they are communicating in an academic environment?
Should the expectations be different for discussion boards, email or chat? In what ways can they differ and to what extent?
I'll have another look at it with fresh eyes in the morning.
Looks great so far.Allison
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:38 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
I've changed the sentence to read : Breaking netiquette rules can lead to hurt feelings. Hopefully that's more in line with your thinking, Daniel. I agree with your point. It was a bit harsh or an online learning commuity.If anyone wants to tweak the wording so that it is suited more toward elementary ed, please have a go.:) Shanda
----- Original Message ----- To: Allison YagerCc: Shanda's Computer ; Agnes WaltersSent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 10:11 PMSubject: Re: This Week's Group Assignment
Sounds like it is elementary. I personally think the draft is really good. The repetition does not pose as an issue for me. Like one reading from week one pointed out, repeat yourself. Students sometimes miss things on the first go, so a second go is good. I would suggest rewording the sentence in the first paragraph that says improper netiquette will leave students vulnerable and unwelcome. Since we are talking about netiquette within the school system, saying they will be unwelcome if they do not always have proper online skills might not convey the idea we want to. Overall though, I think this was great. I think you did a fantastic job of giving the main points in a very succinct manner. Thanks.
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Allison Yager <allisonyager@u.boisestate.edu> wrote:
I vote for elementary.
Allison
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 4:21 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
Ha! Well we have one vote for HS and one for elementary. Allison? Tiebreaker?I've just uploaded a draft onto the wiki called Netiquette Draft 1. It is by no means a final draft. I really was hoping to throw down a template that you guys could adapt, change, fix. Understanding the discussion questions that our instructor gave us as playing a role in this project, I tried to distill our discussions down to a few short points. Please make any changes that you think I omitted or overstated. I started to feel I was being redundant toward the bottom of the page. Any way, I think we're off to a great start! I tried to make the language MS appropriate... but we can change everything to suit the learner group we end up targeting.Here's a link:https://veatchtech.wikispaces.com/Netiquette+draft+1I'm ok with whatever everyone wants to do.
thanks
Allison
Aggie and Shanda, that sounds like a wonderful plan. My vote would be that we make this document aimed toward high school students. I am a bit biased because that is what I teach, but I also think a lot of the conversation thus far addressed the fact that higher levels are held to higher standards when it comes to netiquette in the online environment. I did have one other thought to add though. What if on the discussion boards here we copied the entire conversation we posted on Shanda's wiki, and then attached the final document to that as a way of showing the process this conversation went through? Let me know your thoughts on that.
Daniel
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
Hey folks! What age level should we be making this for? Elementary, middle or high school?Shanda
----- Original Message ----- From: Agnes WaltersTo: Shanda's ComputerCc: Allison Yager ; Daniel WestSent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 3:46 PMSubject: Re: This Week's Group Assignment
I vote for elementary!!
Aggie
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
Hey folks! What age level should we be making this for? Elementary, middle or high school?
Shanda
I think we are on the right track. Next I think we need to design a presentation. I think it best if our presentation reaches both the auditory and visual learners. We can present a short slide show and then design a flyer that can be sent out to students so they can see the netiquette rules we want to enforce. Google Docs has a slide show application that allows us to collaborate on and upload to the teacher.
What do you think? I ca design the format for the slide show if that is the approach we wat to take.
Aggie
----- Original Message ----- From: Allison YagerTo: Shanda's ComputerCc: Agnes Walters ; Daniel WestSent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 11:59 AMSubject: Re: This Week's Group Assignment
Hi,
Here's my webpage directed at Netiquette in primary ed.
http://edtech2.boisestate.edu/yagera/502/netiquette.html
Allison
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Shanda's Computer <cynic@cni.net> wrote:
My understanding of the assignment is that we need to take this discussion and fold it into a viable document on Netiquette for our classrooms. "Your final document should set a clear message for students about what Netiquette is and what is allowed or not allowed when communicating with you and with fellow students via chat or instant messaging, discussion boards, and email. ...the goal of this assignment is to show how you would set standards and guidelines for your online students." I'm emailing a link to the netiquette page I created for a previous class. Although it doesn't include all the elements our instructor raised in our discussion, it might help us with organizing our thoughts around an approach to this assignment.http://edtech2.boisestate.edu/veatchs/502/netiquette.htmland here's a pretty thorough netiquette page I found on edutopiahttp://www.edutopia.org/netiquette-guidelines. Shanda
----- Original Message ----- From: Agnes WaltersTo: Daniel WestCc: Shanda Veatch ; AllisonYager@u.boisestate.eduSent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 1:53 PMSubject: Re: This Week's Group Assignment
Hi
First of all Thank You to Daniel and Shanda for setting this up. I answered the three questions in the Wiki. If I understand the directions we now take our group discussion and put them together to make one discussion from all four of us. Is that correct? I can help in any way, just let me know how. Can we upload the wiki to google docs to submit or does it need to be rewritten?
~Aggie
I just uploaded these questions to a page on my wiki. If you don't link directly to the page, go to the Amethyst page. We can put our answers into that wiki and then upload our final responses to the discussion board. Does that work for everyone?Let me know if it works ok for you.Thanks for getting the ball rolling Daniel.Shanda
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Daniel West <danielwest2@u.boisestate.edu> wrote:
I saw that this week, the four of us have been grouped for the discussion board assignment. Below are the three main questions we were asked to answer. Before I started throwing around answers, I thought I would check in and see how everyone in the group prefers to collaborate. If anyone has any suggestions for how we go about answering these questions and then posting on the message boards, I am all ears. With that said, here are the questions:
- Are emoticons and acronyms appropriate for students to use with their teacher in an academic setting?
- Will you allow invented spellings, or will you expect students to always use correct grammar and punctuation whenever they are communicating in an academic environment?
- Should the expectations be different for discussion boards, email or chat? In what ways can they differ and to what extent?
Daniel WestFellow Ed Tech 521 Student